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Have you ever actually read one of those spammy, scammy, Nigerian-prince-inheritance, I-have-such-a-great-deal-for-you junk emails? Here's what's funny about them: they're now preying upon your mistrust of said spammy, scammy emails in order to get you to trust them. I received one this morning, and I had to laugh at the attempt. It's not so funny when guys running for President of the United States try to pull the same gambit.
It is hardly a stretch to consider that the greatest danger to Barack Obama's re-election prospects has never been the quality of his opposition. Sure, one could take away from the first presidential debate that if Mitt Romney yells a lot at the moderator, the lies escaping his lips don't matter, given how the polls went a bit nuts over the past week. So what to make of it?
The President's greatest enemy is mistrust, and Republicans know it. If there is one thing we can believe about our politics, it's that Americans don't trust a damned thing. The politicians themselves, the policies they propose, the banks they rescue, the laws they pass -- it's all either up for debate, or simply dismissed. They know that given the records of George W. Bush and the recently departed Congressional session which they sat on, they don't have much to run on. The plans Romney and his running mate have for the economy are apparently not worthy of our eyes until we send them to the White House.
So Republicans aren't so much asking America to trust them as they are attempting to have us embrace the mistrust. Romney's best hope is to sow in each voter a lack of faith in what President Obama has done, and even who he is.
In her opening discussion, Melissa will ask today whether anyone actually cares about the truth anymore. Given what's happening in Florida before the election, it's worth asking; we'll get into that, too. Melissa will also spotlight a young hero targeted by the Taliban for having the audacity to help her classmates get an education -- given that this Mental Illness Awareness Week, we'll take a look at living with mental illness, and take a look at the most recent (and unfortunate) developments with one of the most visible sufferers in our politics, Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Illinois. And be sure to stay tuned for a Footnote that will preview Tuesday's presidential debate in a way no one else will.
Our guests include:
- Danielle Belton, editor-at-large at Clutch Magazine, writer for BET's "Don't Sleep!", and creator of the blog The Black Snob.
- Diana Furchtgott-Roth, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and author of "Regulating to Disaster."
- Rula Jebreal, foreign policy analyst for Newsweek, and an MSNBC contributor.
- Jason Johnson, political science professor at Hiram College, chief political correspondent for Politic365.com, and politics editor for The Source magazine.
- Jonathan Metzl, author of "Protest Psychosis;" director, Program in Medicine, Health, and Society, and professor of psychiatry at Vanderbilt University.
- Gihan Perera, executive director of Florida New Majority.
- Joy Reid, managing editor of theGrio.com, and an MSNBC contributor.
- Bill Schneider, distinguished senior fellow and resident scholar at Third Way.
As always, folks -- be sure to interact with us during the show here in the comments of this post, on Facebook, and on Twitter, using the hashtag #nerdland. We look forward to having you join us at 10am ET on msnbc!


I'm sorry but that woman that you have on to say that 'Obama was lying because of the $5 trillion tax cut meme' because Jen Saki SAID he would make it up with cuts...ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME? CNN said 'Obama lied' IF WE TAKE ROMNEY AT HIS WORD. Hello??? And then the only 'cut' he could come up with was Big Bird and then the GOP spent the next week attacking the PRESIDENT for making fun of it? If the Romney campaign does not want the $5 trillion tax cut to stick in peoples mind then the answer is not 'TRUST ME' and then bitch about how the President was ineffective because HE couldn't get anything done and to buy his shtick that somehow ROMNEY will when it's all UP TO CONGRESS. This is the worst circular reasoning and adds NOTHING to the debate.
What an annoying person: Diana Furchtgott-Roth. She speaks with "authority" over things that are scientifically shown to be questionable. And then talks over people in a condescending way.
The woman in the red dress is obnoxious!!!!
Can you remove her soon? She is on only to emphasize her position and not discuss with the other guests. She only wants to argue and is not even listening to the others. Please take her off!!!!
Joy Reid is amazing. She adds to the discussion very much!!!!!
Joy Reid always impresses me!!!!She has such a broad grasp of the facts and presents her ideas in a matter of fact way that is not condesending or arguementative.
I think she should be allowed to guest host on MSNBC shows and eventually have her own show!!! She is amazing.
Who IS this Diana person? She is on to spew 'talking points' with NOTHING to back them up. If you WANT Andrea Saul or Jen Saki on to tell you what the GOP 'thinks' have them. She adds NOTHING to the 'nerdland' discussion. 'WE KNOW' the President and the State Department lied' is not factual proof...and nobody 'admitted' anything. I am concerned about Libya but I do NOT want to listen to someone who hates Obama and knows just about the same amount I do about what actually happened.
Yea, yea, the b*tchin' liar, spinner, right wing thug is leaving. I am sorry MSNBC, giving time to right wingers is simply not appealing. I watch NBC to avoid right wing spin and lies. But thank you Joy Reid for calling her out as "unfair." Personally kudos to all of you for sitting there with her as she lied and lied and lied. Perhaps former GE boss, nutty Welch still has pull and MSNBC is forced to be fair. Or, as typical, lefties always feel the need to play fair regardless of how right wingers abuse that extension of fair play to all, and still do no matter how many rude, obnoxious lies kick us teeth. Personally I am sick of it and have no desire to give voice to liars.
Diana Furchtgott-Roth .... i hope she is just acting like that for TV ,,, no way a real person can speak that way and expect others to actually take them seriously ,, on a personal note ,, she is disgusting and makes my skin crawl :( please do not put her on TV again ,, thanks
Glad that "Diana Downer" if off back to Faux or wherever... If you have facts, lay them out and let the chips fall where they may. If you have hearsay and ideologically backed chatter, keep it for Faux.
As to what happened in Syria, have we or have we not ever heard of a disinformation campaign? Maybe the administration was putting out a story as cover to try and locate the culprits. We went through 8 years of disinformation from the Bush regime. We had malfeasance, treason and abject failure but they're still people who are clamouring for a return to that crap. C'mon people, In the words of noted thespian Samuel L. Jackson, "Wake the fck up"!
Thank you for opening my eyes to crazy voter suppression efforts right here in my home town! I am embarrassed to see information like this hit national television, not to mention my concern over how to help stop it! Just for the record there are many intelligent, educated, concerned people here in Tampa that see through the "misinformation", there is just so much of it, hard to know how or where to start to get others to wake and do some fact checking! I agree with the thespian quote from the comment above!
Please be more selective in your representatives of the conservative viewpoint. There is the true "conservative" and then there is the right wing-nut tea party nutbag ideologues that don't "represent" any actual viewpoint, but only serve as puppet surrogates of the neo-CON agenda. Diana Furchterburgernutbag-Ross is clearly one of those people. I did not hear an original thought come out of her mouth. All I heard was a regurgitation of Mitt Romney's campaign slogans. And why was she commenting on Benghazi? She's a so called "Expert" at the Manhattan "project" Institute on economics, tax and labor and I doubt seriously that she's an "expert" in that as well. Regardless, her views were ignorant and uninformed. Please be more selective in you guest list. Try and IQ test or something. Thanks.
Thank you MHP for being so smart, well-informed and most important, genuinely inquisitive. It is truly a surprise and delight to see someone of your caliber on TV. Joy Reid is also utterly amazing.
I like having conservatives on the show, in principle, in hope that some day there would be a *real* debate over the issues. However, Diana Furchtgott-Roth is not the one. Her comments are well-known cookie-cutter conservative talking points, ploddingly repeated over and over again as though repeating would make them true. We need to get beyond this frustrating dynamic in our public discourse. And for her to say that Bush didn't trigger the deficits that extended into Obama's term? What a joke. You need to remind people that the recession itself was the biggest factor in the deficit because tax revenues were reduced so drastically, by the financial collapse that Bush triggered. There is a LAG time in economic phenomena and just because these impacts showed up during Obama's term doesn't mean they can be pinned on him. This is so utterly clueless.
Finally, weeks ago we heard that the Romney campaign was going to try to "make an issue" out of Libya. This is failing pathetically. I love the fact that the Obama administration is simply saying "We didn't know." Cover-up, schmover up. The ludicrousness of this is when you compare it to what Bush did. Where a cover up led to a two-trillion dollar war. Let's throw that one back in their faces a little harder.
Ok. MUST we allow the CONservatives to control the context of a discussion on every issue? I'm looking at MHP this morning, and the lone conservative, has changed the context of the five trillion dollar tax cut, such that MHP, even was even backing off the point that Romney's tax cut, will cost five trillion dollars.
Listen, no one argues with the fact that the total of an across-the-board tax cut costs FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS. Right? So why allow the conservatives to muddy that point, by saying BUT we're going to pay for it by closing tax loopholes etc? The COST of the tax cut, and how they are going to pay for it, are separate issues.
If you are shopping for a car, and that car costs $20,000, that car COSTS $20,000. It's irrelevant that a rich uncle is going to give you a check for $20,000 to pay for it. That's like saying, "Hey, guess what? The dealership was giving away $20,000 cars", because you didn't have to personally pay for it.
Cost = cost. Not cost = cost - offsets
By allowing the conservatives to combine the cost, and the method of paying for it, into a single topic, Liberals are allowing them to assert that Romney isn't lying when he says "Nobody is proposing a five-trillion-dollar tax cut". Yes. He is. How he's going to pay for it, has nothing to do with how much it costs.
By separating the two issues, Liberals will be able to FORCE Romney to cop to the five trillion dollar figure, AND make his lack of specifics on how the tax cut will be paid for, a separate discussion unto itself. I believe by approaching it that way, it would be a lot harder for Romney to refuse to specify how he's going to PAY for his tax cut, instead of muddling the whole topic with disagreements about how much the "rich uncle" is going to contribute to the five trillion dollar cost.
The inability of Liberals prevent conservatives from twisting discussions in such a way, that allows them to lie with impunity, is maddening.
Well done. Bravo!
@Roger
Thanks!
There is nothing to add here except applaud. JOY ANN Reid for standing up to the snobby stupid right wing repeating Belch.....I am sorry it is Sunday..and out here in my nerd land of my FB I have acquaintances form HS calling me stupid and drinking the cool aid..and I do nto want to hear somebody attacking you Melissa and all the all starts on your panel in he same ignorant way...She was Born to the cloth of Let them eat cake!
I agree strongly with what many other posters have said - so strongly, in fact, that if Diana F is ever on the show again, I will simply turn it off - she is totally obnoxious and ill-informed. Joy Reid is not only a delight, but extremely well-informed, intelligent, and another person who could be an "explainer-in-chief."
I appreciated the segments on mental health - at a later date, perhaps you could spend a whole show on that subject.
Thanks also for the coverage on voter suppression.
Great PE intro, you always have the best music bumpers between your segments also. I think you hit the nail in the head when you said “If there is one thing we can believe about our politics, it's that Americans don't trust a damned thing.” It is so important that we seek the facts for ourselves, but after you swim through the sea of partisan media and slanderous ads it hard to trust anyone. One of my concern is the impact of money on candidates platforms, not just in the Presidential race but across the board. Beyond the fog racism, cultural stereotypes and campaign spin Americans want the facts. Check out In These Streets NC Voters guide with links to check your registration status -
In case anyone is interested.....
Diana F. Roth was the Chief of Staff of George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers from 2003 to 2005!!!!
I'd say that explains a lot !!!!!!