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The late Abu Yahya al-Libi.
Did you feel safer yesterday? That's the question Robert Wright asked in a searing post published on The Atlantic's site concerning Monday's death-by-drone-strike of al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Abu Yahya al-Libi, the guy you see at right. Wright disagrees with the New America Foundation's Peter Bergen, who thinks al-Libi's death is a pretty big deal. Says Bergen:
...the terrorist group that launched the 9/11 attacks is now more or less out of business.
al-Libi died in Pakistan, one of the principal locations to which the Obama administration has been sending American drones to bomb terrorist leaders (and those unfortunate enough to be anywhere near them) off the face of the earth for years now. Actually, "terrorist leaders" is a bit of a lazy media shorthand, considering the diversity of targets being considered. From the heavily-discussed May 29 New York Times report about the administration's drone-strike policy, and its "kill list":
This was the enemy, served up in the latest chart from the intelligence agencies: 15 Qaeda suspects in Yemen with Western ties. The mug shots and brief biographies resembled a high school yearbook layout. Several were Americans. Two were teenagers, including a girl who looked even younger than her 17 years.
"We have never before heard anything quite like the idea that if you have to be in a certain place and you happen to be of a certain age, that in and of itself can make you targetable," said a human rights activist and legal director interviewed by ProPublica's Justin Elliott. His assessment of the Obama doctrine on drone warfare, Elliott admits, is limited since we don't really know all that much about it. (Update: tweeter @dvnix points out that the Times issued a follow-up yesterday to their earlier "kill list" report, a follow-up that sought to debunk a lot of the misinformation and exaggeration that stemmed from it. I hope I've avoided that here.)
What we do know is that this policy early last year drew admiration from none other than former vice president Dick Cheney. Attention lately has been spiked by the brutal criticism from journalists such as The Nation's Jeremy Scahill and Salon's Glenn Greenwald, seen in the Democracy Now! interview embedded at left. (Scahill spit hot fire about drones this past Saturday on this network's "Up with Chris Hayes," calling drone strikes "murder." All three segments of their discussion can be seen here, here, and here.)
All this is to say that as little as we do know, we've always known that drone warfare meant that, well, we're at war in Pakistan. Whether it's for a lack of political will, or because the President wants to be depicted as a "tough guy," or because America is stretched too thin in other land wars in Asia and Americans simply don't want to hear anything about a third one, we're allowed to know about the drones -- but not that America is waging war with the robot planes on an ally's soil. That is, until today.
"We are fighting a war in the FATA, we are fighting a war against terrorism," Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said today. As this report notes, he FATA is the abbreviation used to refer to Pakistan's federally administered tribal areas, in which a lot of people who the American military is targeting with drones happen to live. Wired's Spencer Ackerman wonders, "Was that so hard to admit?" He adds:
In case you’re wondering, there aren’t many legal implications or obligations prompted by Panetta’s admission. The 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force, the legal wellspring of the war on terrorism, clearly authorizes attacking the perpetrator organization of 9/11 unbounded by geographic limits. Besides that, the short document is vague enough to fly a Predator through. There is little upside and much risk for any politician arguing it’s time to end the 9/11 Era. To paraphrase Oliver Wendell Holmes, the life of the war has not been law; it has been politics.
It’s hard to imagine the reverberations Panetta’s comment will have amongst Pakistanis: polls indicate most don’t realize there’s a drone war going on at all. Americans are understandably preoccupied with domestic economic anxiety. The U.S. government, in other words, might have obscured its shadow war for nothing.
So begun this clone drone war has, semi-officially, largely unnoticed here and abroad -- except by those whose lives abroad it throws into upheaval, or simply ends. Wright, in his Atlantic post, compares this war to the "war on drugs," both in its perpetuity and ineffectiveness. To read his argument that drones simply create more terrorists in different places than the ones we're bombing, it's chilling -- just a little more so than the notion that our country commits war and takes this long to admit it.
Update: Secretary Panetta arrived in Afghanistan Thursday morning, the day after a NATO airstrike which Afghan officials claim has killed 18 women and children. (NATO reports no civilians killed.) Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai harshly condemned the attack, saying in a statement that "NATO cannot justify any airstrike which causes harms to the lives and property of civilians."


watching Mleissa Harris-perry show on Mormons and with all the conversation I don't know any more about Mormons than before. they have yet to detail what the religion is about, what it propagates and what are their practices. I don't know if hey believe in Jesus as the Son of God, or any other aspects which may different from Christian religions. Are they a Christian faith? Melissa, get to the point of the show. Still shrouded.
Stick around; I just added a bookmark to this site, and if I can find an e-mail addy for Melissa, she's going to be privy to the same information on Mormons I've been blogging about for ten years now (and feeding to the likes of Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews as well). I've been vilified, called a liar, and praised many times all for the same body of work.
The subject won't reduce to any simple answers. Ms. Harris-Perry could write a hundred statements about Mormonism, and they would all be effectively true, and I could write a hundred in response as qualifiers, and they would be equally honest. I would guess, however, that my replies would be far more inflammatory and upsetting to mainstream Mormons. You can visit www.exmormon.org for some information on the issues I'm familiar with, particularly LDS "revisionist history," which I am thoroughly familiar with, and I don't believe Dr. Perry is (I left a Master's program a few hours short of finishing years ago, but I hang with several of the most knowledgeable "Mormon" historians around).
Shorthand: Are Mormons a Christian faith? Well, they believe in a Christ who "died for our sins" at Gethsemane, was resurrected, etc. But they also believe he visited a mythical group of people in the New World afterwards; these people were descended from Hebrews who migrated to the New World circa 600 B.C.
As far as the question, "Is Mormonism a cult," the clear answer to me is that the 19th Century church clearly was, and cult expert Steven Hassan--whom I've met--pointed to a number of practices by the contemporary church that are consistent with practices of "toxic cults." Hassan himself, is a former Moonie...
So it's "your call" on that one. You can, if you want a long lesson on the subject, Google up the late Christopher Hitchens' Slate essay on Mitt Romney, and there are probably 3,000 comments by church defenders and church critics that you may find illuminating. I probably authored three or four hundred of them, and I'll stand for fact checking on the historical material (as well as the DNA science) by any reasonable academic critics.
Not all Mormons are as vacuous as Mitt Romney, but he is probably representative of the majority (most of whom are Republicans). They've been raised in and steeped in their doctrine and mythology (particularly here in Utah) for generations, and many probably believe in some sort of "divine mandate" for a Romney presidency.
That, in and of itself, should raise some serious questions. The "theocratic nature" of LDS control of the government here in Utah is equally problematic, and again, not subject to easy analysis.
"We have never before heard anything quite like the idea that if you have to be in a certain place and you happen to be of a certain age, that in and of itself can make you targetable,"
Actually we have. During WWII and before the Normandy invasion the Allies bombed certain roads indiscriminately. If you were on that highway you were a target. THOUSANDS of potentially innocent people died. They were murdered, without mercy, without regard for their being civilians, from the air. Just like today.
And yet, had the allies not bombed those roads D-Day might well have failed and the Allies lost WWII.
War is hell. The innocent and not so innocent die in war. There are people who want to kill us. They will not stop if we ask them nicely. THEY choose to go to war with the US. THEY put others into danger. THEY are morally responsible for those deaths.